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《怪异市场的(暂定)理论》

Andrew Walker

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TL;DR
  • Andrew Walker 的暂定论点是,传统投资策略正日益被竞争殆尽,小投资者的超额收益机会因此转向几乎没有历史先例的“怪异”情形。 pod shop 能更快处理信用卡数据,并以更高杠杆放大优势;量化模型可以系统筛选估值因子;机器学习则能大规模执行规则或趋势跟踪策略。他的结论是:“如果你想跑赢市场、创造 Alpha、与众不同,就得做些怪事。”

  • 非凡的市场回报,使金融在 Walker 看来足以竞逐“世界上竞争最激烈的游戏”。 他最常用的比较对象是竞技魔方:冠军成绩从1982年的23秒降至2003年的20秒,到2023年已逼近5秒;2019年,最快选手用脚在17秒内完成还原。如果3.65万美元的总奖金就能推动这样的进步,那么金融业——文中提到,Buffett 即便捐出巨额财富后净资产仍达1500亿美元——理应持续穷尽所有可发现的优势。

  • 在竞争最成熟的层级,赢家策略往往会被尚未适应的参与者视为不理性。 Walker 从 Fosbury Flop 和橄榄球四档进攻分析,讲到 AI 国际象棋和扑克:他引用的描述称,机器下出的棋步有时看起来“简直是错的”;一名前半职业牌手告诉他,AI 向100美元底池下注500美元,可能像“一个醉醺醺的叔叔”在乱扔筹码。对投资者而言,一个看起来陌生的流程未必有误,也可能只是因为这场游戏的最优策略已经改变。

  • 高度优化的系统在超出已知条件时仍可能十分脆弱,这正是“怪异”有价值的原因。 Walker 回忆,棋手会故意走出看似糟糕的开局,把电脑带出“开局库”;StarCraft AI 则“除非出现哪怕轻微的意外,否则就是世界上最好的玩家”。因此,他认为基本面投资者需要意外和肥尾事件,而不只是把同一套历史数据策略执行得更好。

  • 按 Walker 的框架,最有力的案例把不在历史数据中的催化剂,与仍需判断力的基本面分析结合起来。 4年前,AI 带动的电力需求尚无法从历史数据中读出,但识别出电力是 AI 的约束,便可能赚取巨额财富;分拆交易同样会带来被动抛售、有限的独立历史、新管理团队,以及有时会对 pod shop 构成约束的流动性问题。这些领域的“未来”还没有被清晰建模。

  • Walker 将 WBD 和异常的管理层激励视为可能的样本,但也直言怀疑证据是否足够扎实。 他持有 Warner Bros. Discovery 多头仓位,并把这场罕见竞购战视为 N-of-one 事件:Ellisons 亲自为股权交易担保,并表示报价并非最佳且最终报价,Netflix、Trump administration 和 Warner Bros. 董事会也都卷入其中。但一些可重复观察的8-K信号——例如管理层把未来5年的全部股权薪酬提前放在当年领取——可能已经被充分挖掘,既带来机会,也带来风险。他坦言,难以找到案例可能意味着“证据并不支持这个说法”。他把这套理论作为一份粗稿拿出来征求反馈,因为它是其投资方法和2026年度研究工作的核心。

摘要 · 为研究而整理的核心内容

1. Alpha 向标准框架无法归类的情形迁移

  • Walker 的理论从一句不加修饰的前提开始:“股市是世界上竞争最激烈的游戏。”随着资本、技术和专业化程度不断叠加,传统策略正越来越被那些能以更快速度、更系统化方式和更高杠杆执行它们的机构竞争殆尽。

  • 信用卡数据套利归 pod shop;简单的深度价值筛选归量化模型;一般规则和趋势跟踪则越来越由机器学习接管。如果底层策略每季度只有2%的优势,pod shop 可以加杠杆将其放大到8%,未加杠杆的小投资者却很难为同样的研究投入找到经济合理性。

  • Walker 提出的出路是“怪异”:寻找没有有用先例的 N-of-one 情形。他最喜欢的历史样本是 Twitter:世界首富一时兴起决定收购,随后试图退出交易并声称存在 MAE,这属于上市公司历史上大约仅有5起 MAE 案例之一。他提到的其他案例,要么是全球金融危机导致银行倒闭,要么是单家公司遭遇如陨石撞击般的打击,而不是世界首富因为价格问题临阵退缩。

2. 金融业的激励机制会把普通优势竞争殆尽

  • Walker 用体育成绩的量化进步说明持续竞争的结果。2007年,平均快速球速度达到95英里/小时的投手只有11名;到2025年,这一数字已达到300名。不到20年间,曾经代表精英水平的球速就变得稀松平常。

  • 魔方提供了更鲜明的类比。冠军成绩从1982年的23秒提升到2003年的20秒;随着正式比赛组织起来、竞争强度上升,到2023年已逼近5秒。

  • 结论几乎荒诞:2019年,也就是脚解魔方组别的最后一年,最快选手用脚在17秒内完成还原,速度超过了2003年冠军用手完成的成绩。全部冠军奖金池只有3.65万美元,其中最高级别的3×3项目奖金为5000美元。

  • 金融提供的回报规模大得多,竞争历史也长达数百年:从传闻中用于比同行更快获取滑铁卢战况的 Rothschild 赛鸽网络,到 Reuters——这个名字来自一位用鸽子弥补电报网络空缺的人——再到机构为争夺毫秒乃至微秒级优势投入数亿美元。Walker 的挑战是:在这样的激励下,“每一条优势都会被找出来并拿下”。

3. 成熟的游戏会奖励起初看似疯狂的策略

  • Fosbury Flop 是 Walker 最清晰的实体案例。1968年,Dick Fosbury 采用背对横杆的方式夺得奥运金牌之前,如果让一名顶级跳高运动员这样起跳,听起来会荒谬至极;此后,这个曾经疯狂的动作却成为主流技术。

  • 策略演化也是同一逻辑。过去,橄榄球队会避免四档进攻,因为失败可能让教练丢掉工作;如今,数据分析往往支持在40码线附近进行4档4码进攻,或在3码线处4档冲击达阵。Walker 还引用《Moneyball》的例子:球队雇用一名并不真正擅长击球、却能大量保送的一垒手,说明上垒率比打击率更重要。

  • AI 将这一模式推进了一步。Walker 引用一位观察者对 AI 国际象棋的描述:AI 下出的棋步让人类和以人类棋谱训练的机器都感到反直觉,有时“简直是错的”,整盘棋看起来像“来自另一个维度的国际象棋”。扑克系统下注过量的频率也远高于历史上的人类牌手。一名前半职业牌手告诉 Walker,如果不知道来源,人们可能会把 AI 误认为“一个醉醺醺的叔叔”,在毫无章法地乱扔筹码。

4. 意外是小投资者剩下的战场

  • Walker 回顾 Deep Blue 与 Garry Kasparov 的案例称,Kasparov 会故意走出看似疯狂的开局,把 AI 带出“开局库”,牺牲局部最优,换取陌生局面。

  • StarCraft AI 在受控条件下也暴露出同样的局限。它可以在特定地图和设定下击败顶尖职业选手,但条件一变,优势就会瓦解:“除非出现哪怕轻微的意外,否则 AI 就是世界上最好的玩家。”

  • AI 相关的电力需求展示了一个可以交易的肥尾事件。4年前,历史数据无法揭示即将到来的负荷,很多时候甚至连未来需求本身也不可见;真正有价值的判断是,AI 的大规模部署“将会消耗海量电力”。

  • 分拆交易提供了一个更具结构性的版本:投资者不想持有的股份会带来被动抛售,独立运营后的历史数据稀少,新管理层可能带来 AI 不具备的人类判断。Walker 承认 pod shop 也可以参与,但流动性约束可能为规模更小的基本面投资者留下机会。

5. 这套理论作为框架最强,作为市场地图仍未完成

  • Walker 将 WBD 视为当前的 N-of-one,并披露自己持有多头仓位。可供参考的竞购战先例寥寥无几,而这一案例同时包含 Ellisons 亲自为股权交易担保、表示报价并非最佳且最终报价、Netflix、Trump administration、Warner Bros. 董事会,以及大量“软性考量”。

  • 他并不确定如何把这套框架转化为可重复的机会集合。异常的8-K薪酬变动——例如管理层把未来5年的全部股权薪酬作为奖励在当年一次性领取——可能很有意思,但 AI 最终也可能学会识别这种模式。Walker 认为其中既有机会,也有风险。

  • Walker 说,前2/3的内容——概览、理论和体育类比——都非常好,但在把框架转化为具体市场案例时陷入了写作瓶颈。他把这份粗稿公开出来,想在围绕它构建2026年度研究工作之前征集案例和反驳;难以找到案例,可能意味着他需要更好的例子,也可能意味着“证据并不支持这个说法”。

完整逐字稿
Andrew Walker

All right. Hello and welcome to the Yet Other Value podcast. I'm your host, Andrew Walker. If you like this podcast, it would mean a lot if you could rate, subscribe, and review wherever you're watching or listening to it. And as always, if you don't like it, forget about it. Don't rate, subscribe, or review, and go on your way. See you later. Today's episode is a slightly different episode. I'm going to introduce a theory that I kind of talked about a little bit in my December random ramblings. I've been thinking about it a lot. I'm trying to write a piece on it, and I wanted to put, let's say, a rough draft of the theory out into the world to get feedback on it, basically. So, I'm going to—it's not my random ramblings, but it's just me talking about this theory. I'm putting it out there because I would love to hear from you if you've got thoughts on the theory, ways I can improve the theory, or weaknesses in the theory, because, as we'll discuss, it's kind of core to how I'm thinking about the upcoming year, investing, and everything I do. So, you'll hear it all once I get there. So, we're going to go to that episode, but first, a word from our sponsors. Today's podcast is sponsored by fiscal.ai. Fiscal.ai is a modern data terminal built for investors who want an institutional-grade platform without the complexity. Whether you're an individual investor or a professional portfolio manager, fiscal.ai gives you instant access to years of financials, earnings transcripts, and company-specific segment and KPI databases, all in one intuitive platform. What makes it stand out from other platforms? Speed, depth, and ease of use. Their data updates within minutes of earnings reports, not day. Segment revenue, subscriber growth—it's all there. Easy to chart, compare, and export. I've been using fiscal AI for interesting ways to chart and graph and visualize different segment KPIs, comparisons, all of that, and I think it's been really interesting. Particularly, it's the segment data. When you put it in a graph, you can get some really interesting comparisons—margins from one quarter to another, how they've evolved over time, stuff like that. Anyway, use my link fiscal.ai/. That's fiscal.aiyav for two weeks free plus 15% off any of their paid plans. That's fiscal.aiyab. All right. Hello and welcome to a special episode of the Yet Another Value podcast. They're all special, but this one is extra special. I'm your host, Andrew Walker, and today I have a slightly different episode for you. I'll explain in a second. Let's just start the same way we start every episode. Quick disclaimer: nothing on this podcast is investing advice. I can't emphasize that enough. I can't tell you how weird, how strange I am all the time. We're actually going to be talking about how weird I am. That's a funny turn of phrase. So, just remember that full disclaimer at the end of the podcast, consult a financial adviser, all that sort of stuff. Okay, let me explain the purpose of this episode. This is just me hopping on and rambling like a madman. I do that once a month in a segment I call my random ramblings, but this is not that.

The reason for this podcast is that every year I do a lot of annual stuff. I write up my annual outlook for my Yet Another Value empire, I write an annual letter to investors, and I do all sorts of annual stuff. I’m hitting a bit of a frozen point right now. I’m working on all of the stuff for this year, and it’s getting bigger and harder and all of that.

The central thesis of what I’m trying to write involves a theory—a theory that I kind of alluded to on my last random ramblings. I call this the theory of weird markets. I do understand how hoity-toity and arrogant I can sound saying, “I have a theory of the markets,” but it is what I’m calling my theory of weird markets. That is the center of a lot of my vision for my empire and for how I’m thinking about investing—everything I’m doing in 2026.

I need to get this theory piece, my theory-of-the-markets piece, out before I can write everything else, because I need links to send back to it to explain, “Hey, here’s the full theory, if you want.” But I’m hitting a bit of writer’s block—building it and just finishing it. I’ve got the vision in my head, but I’m having trouble getting it fully onto paper.

I thought, “Hey, a lot of my favorite writers do podcast versions of their articles where they literally just read the articles that they wrote. I could do that.” Maybe it’s because I think I’m a better talker than I am. Maybe it’s because I’m a worse writer than I would like to be, but I think I could talk the theory out better than I can write it right now.

I wanted to talk out—not read my rough draft fully, but I have my notes and I’m just going to talk out the rough draft—and put it into the podcast format. This will be my rough draft of the theory of the markets. I’ll put it out, and if you’ve got ideas, if you’re listening and it spurs a thought, or I say something and you’re like, “I firmly disagree with that,” or, “I firmly agree with this,” or, “It should go further,” you can reach out to me.

You can tell me, “Hey, Andrew, here’s how to evolve your theory.” Then I’ll put this podcast out and hopefully it cures my writer’s block. My conversations with people—10 years ago, I used to think sitting in a room just reading was the way to invest. Increasingly, I think you need to read and you need to be differentiated, but the conversations I have on the podcast and with friends really help me think and evolve.

I think putting this out there and having a conversation with a few of you who respond with thoughts can help me evolve and perfect this theory I’m working on. That is my overarching reason and thought process for this podcast.

Let’s dive into it. Let me start with my theory of weird markets. Again, I alluded to this a little bit in the December random ramblings, but here is the theory as I have come to think about it.

The stock market is the most competitive game in the world. In all games, and across all competitive things, as the stakes get higher and higher and things get more and more specialized, the winning strategies at the highest levels often look counterintuitive or insane compared with what the game looked like when it was less evolved or what less evolved players would do.

Those insane and counterintuitive strategies do come to dominate traditional strategies as the game gets better and more competitive, and as the players get more skilled. I think the stock market has increasingly reached the point where the traditional strategies are just being dominated.

There’s the rise of all the money in pod shops. If you were saying, “Hey, I’m trading on credit-card data or something,” I’d say, “I think the pod shops can probably trade these quarters a lot better than you.” If there’s the rise of quantitative models, and you’re saying, “Hey, I’m trading stuff on value multiples exclusively. I buy things that are deep value, 5 times earnings,” I’d say, “I think the quant models can probably do that better than you and faster than you can.”

There’s increasingly machine learning and AI. If you were saying, “Hey, I’m doing some general trend following or rules,” I’d say, “I think the machine learning is kind of coming out there.”

I think the stock market is the most competitive game in the world, and increasingly, I think the traditional strategies are being dominated. What does that mean for you and me? I think the winning strategies for smaller investors who aren’t running pod-shop money and who aren’t running with $100 million computer systems are actually the only strategies—the only way to find alpha is going to be in what I am calling weird.

So, that is my theory of weird markets. If you want to outperform, if you want to generate alpha, if you want to be different, you have to do something weird going forward. You have to be investing in the weird. I’ve described them in the past as “N of 1s,” things that have no parallel in the market.

My favorite historical example would be Twitter and Elon Musk. Elon Musk, the world’s richest man—not a corporation, the world’s richest man—decides to buy Twitter on a whim. Then he decides to back out of it and claims an MAE. There have only been about 5 publicly traded MAE cases in history, so right away, you have something that hasn’t happened a lot.

The MAE cases in the past have been the global financial crisis causing banks to fail, or the individual company really getting hit—like it gets hit by a meteor. In this case, it was the world’s richest man wanting to back out, having cold feet, and thinking he was overpaying. It was an extremely strange case, and there were all sorts of things involved, but I would point to that as a really great example of an N of 1. That is my overall theory.

Let me go through some of the things I’ve been thinking about as I’ve evolved it. Let me start with my first contention: that the stock market is the world’s most competitive game.

Before I start talking about why I believe the stock market is the most competitive game, let me back up. I said that, as I talked about the most competitive game, games get more competitive over time. It’s really tough to evaluate that. In basketball, people will always debate whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James was the GOAT, and you’re comparing across eras.

It's really difficult to compare things across eras. But there are a lot of sports where there are quantitative standards that we can see across eras, and that makes it very easy to compare. Take track and field: if you run 100 meters in 10 seconds today, we can compare that to how the greats of 10 or 20 years ago performed. We can say, “Hey, the people today are faster than the people 10 or 20 years ago.”

Now, there would also be some debate that sports performance, medicine, athletics—all of this—is much better today. Equipment is much better, so maybe you have that. But you can say that runners generally are faster. One example I came up with is baseball. In baseball, in 2007, only 11 pitchers had an average fastball velocity of 95 miles per hour. In 2025, 300 pitchers had an average fastball velocity of 95 miles per hour.

Twenty years ago, if you were throwing 95 miles per hour or more with your fastball, you were an elite speed pitcher. Maybe you didn't have control or whatever, but you were literally one of the top 10 or 11. Today, if you're throwing a 95-mph fastball, there are literally 300 other pitchers like you. The fastball speed went from elite to commonplace in just under 20 years. That's 2007 to 2025.

I've got lots of other examples in sports, but let me give you my favorite example for thinking about the stock market and for comparison, because it's both so out there and because it's a combination of mental and physical: the Rubik's Cube. In 1982, the world's first—and, for 20 years, only—Rubik's Cube championship was held in Hungary. The winning time was 23 seconds. They didn't hold another world championship for 20 years.

The next world championship event for Rubik's Cube was held in 2003. The winning time was 20 seconds. That's a jump from 23 to 20 seconds, which isn't bad. At the elite sprinting level, a tenth of a second is how you separate the greats from the also-rans.

In 2024, there was that famous photo, if you remember, of the Olympic gold medal race where everyone's literally crossing the finish line at the same time. Noah Lyles, the American, won Olympic gold for the 100-meter dash in 9.79 seconds. The fourth-place time was 9.82 seconds. In that case, three-hundredths of a second separated “I am the world's fastest man” from “I am not. I have as many Olympic medals as Andrew Walker does.”

In the Rubik's Cube, I just told you that over 20 years, the time went from 23 to 20 seconds—three full seconds. That's a lot of improvement, but it's nothing compared to what's to come. The world championship took place basically every year from 2003 onward, with a world championship to organize and push people and push the sport, so to speak, to its limit. By 2023, the winning time for Rubik's Cube solving was approaching 5 seconds.

From 1982 to 2003, you go from 23 to 20 seconds. From 2003 to 2023, so the same 20 years, you go from 20 seconds to 5 seconds. That's just an insane amount of progression. But my favorite way to say this is that until 2019, the Rubik's Cube Championship actually had all sorts of events. There was solving it blindfolded, solving a 3×3—that's the classic cube puzzle—or solving a 4×4 or 5×5.

Until 2019, they had a category for the world's fastest person who could solve a Rubik's Cube with their feet. How fast could they solve it? In 2019, the last year they had the feet category, the fastest person solved a Rubik's Cube in 17 seconds. From 2003 to 2019, the sport improved so much that the fastest person in the world was solving a Rubik's Cube with their feet faster than the fastest person in 2003 was solving it with their hands. That's just crazy.

The other reason I like the Rubik's Cube is because the stakes are really small, right? It is Rubik's Cube. It is not exactly getting the girls. In football, the high school quarterback gets all the girls. “I'm the fastest Rubik's Cube solver at my high school” isn't exactly going to get the girls to come after you. And it's not exactly a monetary task.

The total prize pool for the Rubik's Cube Championship is $36,500. That's the total prize pool. The fastest solver of the 3×3—the best, most competitive event in Rubik's Cube—gets $5,000 for solving it. We're literally talking about a week, two weeks, or a month's take-home pay for an average person. That incentive is enough to push humans, within 20 years, to solve a Rubik's Cube faster with their feet than they were solving it with their hands 20 years before.

If that little pride and that little incentive can push people that far with Rubik's Cubes, what do you think about the stock market, where the rewards for being right—having one unique insight—can literally turn you into the world's richest man, right? One of the richest people in the world. If you can be right more than once, Buffett's net worth is $150 billion, and that's after giving away a heck of a lot of money. That's four times the GDP of a lot of small European countries.

If $36,500 in total is enough to drive this, what do you think about the returns in finance, where you can become the richest man in the world or one of the most respected men in the world? You're great at finance, and you can become the Secretary of the Treasury or the Secretary of Commerce. You might not even have to be great at finance to become the Secretary of the Treasury, by the way, but you can raise enough money.

I would just contend that if you can do that with the Rubik's Cube, step back and look at the history of finance. In finance, you see firms investing hundreds of millions of dollars to compete for milliseconds or microseconds of speed to win in trading games. You have the Rothschilds; the rumor is that they traded on Waterloo faster than their peers thanks to a racing-pigeon network.

Reuters, the news service, is named after a man who got his news service going by using a pigeon network to bridge a gap in the telegraph network. There was a gap, and he used a pigeon network so that traders could get news faster by pigeon than they were getting it by train. If you think about that history of hundreds of years of competition, where every edge is sought out and taken, and the insane riches that can accrue, I would just argue that if you say, “I don't think finance is the most competitive game in the world,” you're ignoring the history.

You're ignoring the stakes, the incentives, and the competition. So that's my point on competition. Let me go to the second thing I mentioned: as the competitive stakes get higher and games get more and more advanced, the winning strategy looks counterintuitive or even insane.

The first place I would point this out is basketball. If you and I are playing a game of basketball, our strategy is going to be much different from that of an NBA player. Why? Because NBA players can dunk and we can't. NBA strategy needs to revolve around, “Hey, the tall man who's running super fast—if he gets close enough to the rim, he'll just jump up, grab the ball, and throw it through the hoop.”

Whereas if you and I are playing, we don't have to worry about that kind of verticality. We will play on a horizontal level; they will play on a vertical level. That's a really nice example of how, when you're at the peak of your powers, the dimensions of the game can change.

As things get more advanced, the strategy can start to look insane. Let me give you an example. Everyone knows the Olympic high jump. It's been an event at every Olympics since the first Olympics. It was one of the first events in which women could compete. This is an event with a long, long history.

The high jump is where you literally set a bar, and you have to jump over it. Until the 1960s, the way everyone jumped over it was kind of the way most people would: you would run up and try to jump normally. Then Dick Fosbury won the gold medal at the 1968 Olympics with what became known as the Fosbury Flop. He jumped backward over the bar.

If you've seen high jumping, I'm sure everybody's seen it once, you'll know the technique. They run up to the bar, turn their body toward it, lean over, and their shoulders and head go over first, with their legs going over last. Dick Fosbury won with it. That was, and is, the best way to jump.

Before the Fosbury Flop came around, if you had gone to the best Olympic jumper in the 1950s and said, “Hey, why don't you jump over that bar backward?” people would have thought that was insane. But this is a better technique. I'm not saying that's the same in every sport. Obviously, in running, the best way to run has kind of evolved into us.

It's just interesting. Here's an event where, as people got better and perfected the strategy, they discovered a way of moving that seemed insane but was actually the optimal way to do things. If you tried anything else, you would get crushed today. Again, that is a physical event, but there are lots of examples of strategies in sports that have similar characteristics.

Let me give you one: in football, going for it on fourth down.

In the ’80s and ’90s, teams almost never went for it on fourth down unless they had to. Today, teams go for it on fourth down like crazy. Watch a football game: fourth and 4 at the 40, teams are going for that every time. That’s because of analytics, and people have realized that it’s optimal, and there are lots of reasons for that. If you don’t get it, you give the other team a short field. The reward for getting it versus kicking a 50-plus-yard field goal—the expected-points value—is much higher. All these types of things.

But if you imagine 30 or 40 years ago, if you had fourth and goal, let’s say from the 3, and you went for it, is that the analytically correct play? Absolutely. But everyone else was not going for it. If you went for it and missed it, you were probably going to get fired the next day, right? It was just so crazy.

Baseball—Moneyball has this famously, right? Hiring a first baseman who can’t really hit but who takes lots of walks showed that on-base percentage is much more important than batting average. Across sports, you’ll see lots of this type of stuff. The optimal strategy might not be intuitive. It seems insane at the time, but as the game evolves, people hone in on the optimal strategy, even if it’s crazy.

You can see that as AI has started to dominate a lot of places. Chess, as AI has mastered chess, I’ve got this great quote from someone who says, “AI mastered chess, and it did so not by playing like a grandmaster or a pre-existing program. It conceived and executed moves that humans and human-trained machines found counterintuitive, sometimes even simply wrong. The games that AI chess plays look like chess from another dimension.” Again, AI is smashing everyone else. It’s so much better than everyone else, but it’s making moves that, at the high end, people never thought of. They’re counterintuitive. They look wrong.

Poker—AI has started to solve poker. One of the things that AI has changed in poker is that, if you’ve ever played high-limit poker, you know most of the time the bet is in relation to the pot. So, if there’s $100 in the pot, people would think, “Do I bet 50% of the pot? Do I bet 1% of the pot? Do I bet half the pot? Do I bet the full pot? Do I bet 2× the pot?” AI started to evolve and discovered that it overbets the pot way more than normal humans do. You’d have $100 in the pot, and it would put a $500 bet in or something.

One friend who is a former semipro at poker told me, “Hey, if you looked at the AI models and you didn’t know that the AI models had evolved to win at chess, and you saw one of these play, you would think it was playing like a drunk uncle who had just come in and was throwing chips on the table. Every time it put $50 into a $10 pot, you’d be like, ‘This guy’s crazy.’” But the AI has evolved, and that aggressiveness has dominated.

I point that out because, in finance, I think these things are evolving. They’re coming to dominate humans, and I think the ways that they’re starting to win are going to look strange to a lot of humans. So, that’s talking about the high end and the meta level. If the meta level is evolving to a place where the competition is more fierce than ever, and where the basics are getting dominated by all this AI, machine learning, everything, how does an individual investor—a one-man shop, someone running a small fund, someone who doesn’t have access to or isn’t using this AI, this machine learning, these quant funds—compete?

I would argue that the way you need to compete is getting weird. The place that I would point to is that I don’t think you compete by saying, “Hey, I’m tracking credit-card data. I’m going to analyze this credit-card data better.” For a thousand reasons, pod shops have more analytical capability. Pod shops run with pod-shop quants. They can run with more leverage.

If the returns to getting a quarter right or modeling credit-card data right are 2%, that’s not worth your time if you’re not applying the same leverage. They can apply a lot of leverage and turn that 2% into 8%. Obviously, that carries risk and reward, but they’re better. They do it faster, they do it more systematically, and they just pressure the returns out of it.

So, what is the winning strategy? I think you can see the winning strategy at the edges of a lot of these games that AI has played. There’s a famous example—what is it?—Deep Blue versus Garry Kasparov in the ’80s or ’90s, when IBM created Deep Blue. Kasparov started his opening moves with moves that would literally be insane because he took the AI out of the book, right? If you have a chess opening move that no one would make because it’s so bad, and you make it, yes, that’s suboptimal, but you’ve taken it out of the book. The AI is experiencing weirdness, and it doesn’t know where to go, right?

You’ll see this in StarCraft, for example. They introduced AIs that could beat even the top pros, but only under very specific, controlled scenarios: one map with a lot of different things the AI was in control of. If you changed any of those scenarios, the AI could not evolve. As a commentator noted, the AI was the best player in the world unless there was even a minor surprise. Once there was a minor surprise, the AI couldn’t compete.

I think that’s how this applies to stock markets going forward. That’s my theory of weird markets. If you’re investing on fundamentals, you can’t do it simply on fundamentals. The AI competition is too great. You need to have the surprises. You need to have the weirdness.

The good news is that the world is a weird place filled with fat tails. It’s the fat tails that are going to present the opportunities for alpha. It’s where you can find a place to apply fundamental thinking in something that’s out there on the far tails.

I’ll give one example, and again, this is where I start to hit the writer’s block, but I’ll give one example. Speaking of AI, AI is a data hog and a power pig, right? If, 4 years ago, you could realize that the demand for power was one of the constraints on AI, you could make a fortune. I would argue that this was a place where AI models in a lot of places did not have the capability to do this. That was a fat tail.

A lot of places did not have the capability to see it, and it’s not in the historical data, right? You couldn’t look at a power play and say, “Oh, this is trading really cheap. Let’s buy it,” because it was the future. You couldn’t see the demand in the past. A lot of times, you couldn’t even see the demand in the future. You just had to know, “Hey, all this AI is coming. It’s not modeled anywhere, but it’s going to consume a ton of power.” So, I think that’s one interesting example.

I’ve said n-of-1s and weird situations. I’ll give some others. I think spin-offs are always a great place, right? You’ve got a company that’s spinning off a division. Oftentimes, the people who own the core company don’t care about or want the spin-off company. You get a lot of forced selling, you don’t have a lot of historical data on it, so you can do a lot of work on that. Oftentimes, the management team is a new management team, so you can get views that AI is never going to have. Pod shops might have them, but pod shops also might have liquidity constraints and all this sort of stuff.

So, I think that’s another interesting example. Unique event situations in the stock market—there are a few that I’m currently involved in that I won’t mention now. I do write up a lot of these, obviously, on the premium side. That’s kind of the bread and butter.

I think unique events are absolute catnip for this. The fundamentals might—here’s a great one: I’m long Warner Bros. Discovery, WBD. I’ve written it up, so there’s my disclosure. There have only been a handful of bidding wars in history, and at WBD, you’ve got a lot of soft considerations. You’ve got the Ellisons going around saying, “Hey, this was not our best and final bid.” You’ve got all this other stuff.

But bidding wars are very much on the edge of the markets. They’re very rare, and when they happen, I think each and every one is unique. You’ve got the Ellisons, some of the richest people in the world, personally guaranteeing an equity deal. You’ve got Netflix on the other side. You’ve got the Trump administration. You’ve got the Warner Bros. board. You’ve got all these different things. I think that would qualify as a unique one.

I’m trying to think of others off the top of my head. Again, this is where I like the first two-thirds of the theory, but then, translated into the specific market thoughts, I think as I talk through this, this is where I start to have the writer’s block that I mentioned and all that sort of stuff.

So, where else? I think there’s still a lot of alpha in management incentives. This is the classic non-GAAP spring-loading stuff, but when a management team—when you see the 8-K file that says, “Hey, this manager has decided to take all the next 5 years of their equity compensation this year as a reward”—I think those are very interesting situations. But I do think those are increasingly picked over, because if you say, “Hey, every time that happens, that’s an opportunity,” then AI is eventually going to learn that and everything. So, that’s one where I think there’s both opportunity and risk.

That’s it. So, look, I’m running long. I’ve done this on a Friday, and I’ve been thinking about this all week. I’ve got to go pick my daughter up in a second, so I’m going to have to go pick her up. But I think I’ve done—I hope I’ve done—a nice job of explaining the weird markets theory.

I feel like the first two-thirds of it—the overview, my thinking, my parallels to the sports world—I think those are very good. But I do have trouble, once I get to the specific markets piece, really driving it home with specific examples. Maybe I just need to think of them more, or maybe that’s a sign that theories can evolve. You can come up with a lot of interesting theories in your head, but sometimes it’s really hard once you put them to paper. The reason it’s hard to put them down is that the evidence doesn’t back them up.

So, I’m still thinking about it a lot. I think I’m going to wrap it up here. I appreciate you listening to me, but what I would really appreciate is if this conversation—me throwing all this out at you—spurs a thought for you. I’d love to chat with you. If you’ve got other examples, or if you say, “Hey, Andrew, here’s something you’re not thinking about on the weird markets side,” I’d love to talk. I’d love to do it, because I do want to get this theory posted in the next week or so.

I’m recording this Friday, January 9th. I want to get it posted because, as I said, all of my annual stuff is waiting on getting this theory out so I can link to it, mention it, and build off it. So, I want to get it out then. I’m going to wrap it up here and put this up. We’ll get the follow-up post, but if any of this is spurring a thought for you, I’d love to discuss it with you.

This is a topic I’ve been thinking a lot about, and hopefully it did spur something with you. And look, if it didn’t, hopefully you at least enjoyed me rambling and the Rubik’s Cube example. I mean, come on, how much better can you get than that Rubik’s Cube example? So, I’ll wrap it up here. Thank you so much for listening. We will talk soon.