Sohn Conference Foundation · · 12 min
Tariq Barma pitches Perimeter Solutions at Sohn 2026
TL;DR
- Tariq Barma of Balance Capital pitches Perimeter Solutions as a “misunderstood winner” with a base-case double over 2–3 years, mostly from earnings growth. He expects pro forma EBITDA to grow “north of 30% in the coming years while handily beating estimates” and seeing positive revisions; a bull case adds multiple expansion, while a market view of Perimeter as “a declining commodity chemical supplier” implies about 20% downside.
- Balance’s 2028 EBITDA estimate is 15% ahead of the Street; including M&A, Barma expects its numbers to be much higher. FOIAed historical 2024 and prior contracts, analyzed base by base, showed higher-priced Tier 1 gallons had “nearly tripled.” Contracts have shifted toward service versus volume revenue, with further change from 2026 contracts; the new U.S. Forest Service contract and a CAL FIRE renewal announced the prior week add pricing upside.
- The moat argument: Perimeter’s wildfire-retardant value is reliable end-to-end service, not simply manufacturing, and competition is effectively moot — “Perimeter has already hit escape velocity.” Every attempted entrant has failed or been acquired; even a viable competitor could not compete until 2028–29 at the earliest, “more likely 2030 or 2031.” Barma expects retardant to be 30% of EBITDA by 2030 as M&A diversifies the company.
- M&A is the next chapter. Barma expects Perimeter to deploy significant capital at attractive returns; IMS and MMT provide early evidence, with IMS using a strategy similar to TransDigm’s Extant approach and MMT already exceeding expectations.
- The jockey case leans on TransDigm DNA: management includes former investors and talented short sellers, while a board of senior TransDigm alumni created the 3P playbook used by Perimeter employees — lean costs, close customer engagement, autonomy with accountability, and pricing “to value, not cost.” Every business line has expanded margins by over 1,000 basis points, and management repurchased 16% of the company over five years.
- The hated incentive comp is a non-issue, Barma argues: “Everyone on the Street hates it. We think this is silly.” The management fee expires in 2027 and the incentive fee in 2031; investors can evaluate the net return. Real risks include empire building, a potential competitor litigating the Forest Service contract award — a mark-to-market risk Barma thinks will prove moot — and technological developments that could turn wildfires and retardant usage into a secular decline.
Digest · the substance, structured for research
1. The setup: from SPAC wreckage to “misunderstood winner”
- Barma’s filter at Balance, co-founded in 2022 with Ali Karim, is a meaningful variant view on earnings two years out: “15% value growth, upside estimate revisions, and a multiple re-rate, which brings the return into the 20s.”
- Perimeter came public via SPAC in 2021 and fell from 14 to 3 amid a new competitor, weak fire seasons, and a capital-allocation story that failed to materialize. In the last two years, Barma says the company has overcome each issue.
- In wildfire retardant, Perimeter handles manufacturing, supply chain, and air-base staffing. Barma’s point is that the value lies less in making retardant than in reliably servicing customers nationwide during short, high-stakes windows, with 100% success. Other niche businesses include foam suppressants, P₂S₅ oil additives, IMS, and MMT.
2. The variant view: unique research puts Balance 15% above the Street
- FOIAed historical 2024 and prior contracts, analyzed base by base, show Tier 1 gallons “nearly tripled,” reducing sensitivity to weak fire seasons. Contracts have shifted toward service versus volume revenue, with further improvement when 2026 contracts take effect. The new U.S. Forest Service contract and a CAL FIRE renewal announced the prior week add pricing upside.
- In a normalized fire season, Barma thinks the business was already under-earning. Calls with former MMT employees suggest a material margin opportunity where the Street models minor expansion; further upside could come from resolving one-time oil-additive issues, continued suppression growth including a recent contract win, and IMS execution.
3. Betting on TransDigm alumni running the 3P playbook
- Management includes several former investors, some of whom Barma describes as talented short sellers, while the board consists of senior TransDigm alumni whose operating playbook Perimeter employees use. The playbook means lean costs, close customer engagement, pricing “to value, not cost,” and autonomous business units with accountability. Barma says every business line has expanded margins by over 1,000 basis points.
- Market participants have questioned whether the playbook works outside aerospace. Barma says “we do not need to wonder”: a senior former TransDigm employee suggested it has already been applied successfully to noncore businesses acquired alongside other companies. TransDigm’s nearly 100 acquisitions, its goal of doubling acquired-company profits over five years, and its extraordinarily high hit rate provide the model.
4. Escape velocity, M&A, and risks worth monitoring
- Every attempted fire-business entrant has failed or been acquired. Even a viable competitor could not compete until 2028–29 at the earliest, more likely 2030–31, and would still face Perimeter’s long track record of 100% success and reliability.
- M&A is the diversification engine: Barma expects it to accelerate and says Perimeter should deploy significant capital at attractive returns. IMS is following a strategy similar to TransDigm’s successful Extant approach, led by former Extant employees, while MMT is already exceeding expectations. Barma expects retardant to be 30% of EBITDA by 2030.
- On the despised founder compensation, the management and incentive fees expire in 2027 and 2031: “you can easily do the math and evaluate if you like the net return.” The biggest real risk is empire building; other risks are a potential competitor litigating the Forest Service contract award, which Barma thinks will prove moot, and technological developments that could turn wildfires and retardant usage into a secular decline — “something important to monitor.”