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Sora 的关停看似只是一次利落的产品失败,却释放了一个事关 AI 经济学的重大警示。 Sora 团队的告别信给出了 app、API 以及用户作品保留安排的时间表。Sora 一度登上 App Store 榜首,最终却证明只是个新鲜玩意;Ben 因而称其关停是一次“几乎不见血的处决”(a very bloodless killing)。OpenAI 的产品判断并非没有道理,但这款独立社交网络看起来并未达到临界规模。
版权管控可能拿掉了 Sora 最有希望存活的那个功能。 Ben 认为,早期热度可能来自用户对知名人物和角色的改编;没有这些共同文化素材,兴趣可能会大幅下滑。Andrew 认为,Sora 有机会成为一个能持续产出 meme 的工具,而不是 Instagram 的竞争者;Ben 则称那个未能实现的版本本可以成为“史上最强的 meme 制造机”。
云端视频生成颠覆了早期社交产品得以复利增长的零边际成本条件。 Instagram 起步时,滤镜在本地计算,分发由 App Store 完成;随着产品价值增长,再逐步补上基础设施。Sora 从第一天起就背负沉重的算力成本——Andrew 提到一个未经证实的“每天1500万美元”估算——在 OpenAI 还没想清楚如何从中赚钱之前,就把产品推入了“要么做大、要么归零”的局面。
OpenAI 转向企业市场在经济上可能是必需的,但也意味着消费者平台这条命题始终没有得到验证。 Ben 曾设想一个约10亿用户的消费者业务,加上广告收入,形成收入与研发之间的飞轮;但 OpenAI 开始变现太晚,“我们不知道那条路是否行得通”。企业客户会直接为生产力付费,Codex 也有吸引力,而服务器账单必须有人买单;不过,OpenAI 与 Anthropic、Microsoft 等公司的竞争将是硬碰硬。
私营公司的营收披露,与其说厘清了 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 的竞赛,不如说进一步遮蔽了它。 Ben 表示,Anthropic 报出的 ARR 可能更接近 GMV,因为其中包含客户支付的总额;OpenAI 的数字则反映了扣除支付给云服务商部分后的金额。即便如此,“增长轨迹是真实的”:Anthropic 的曲线看起来更陡,而 OpenAI 的绝对领先幅度可能仍然更大。Andrew 说,两家公司都可能在未来1-2个季度内上市;Ben 认为,这正是公开市场融资机制应有的运作方式。
1. Sora 从 App Store 现象走向悄无声息地关停
Sora 团队的告别信给出了 app、API 以及用户作品保留安排的时间表。Ben 直截了当地问:“用 Sora 做出来的东西,真的有任何一件重要过吗?”这句话点出了它从上线时的狂热,到最终沦为新鲜玩意之间的落差。
Ben 提到,Sora 曾登上 App Store 榜首,随后却证明只是个新鲜玩意;他还开玩笑说,Meta 的 Vibes 虽然自己已经几个月没打开过,却反而“赢了”。他更大的判断是,推出一个独立的创作社区本身就很大胆,因为 Facebook 后来推出的其他社交网络基本都失败了。
Ben 将关停称为“一次几乎不见血的处决”(a very bloodless killing),理由是如果没人使用这款 app,它消失后也不会造成多大影响。他认为 Disney 似乎是主要受害者,Andrew 则补充说,Disney 的那笔合作也被撤回了。Andrew 仍然认可 OpenAI 的产品直觉:Sora 吓到了好莱坞,也制造了关注度,但“产品本身并不真正构成他们的一门生意”。
Ben 还提出了一个战略问题:Sora 的功能是否应该直接放进 ChatGPT,而不是作为一款独立社交产品推出。
2. 版权管控可能扼杀了 Sora 最强的使用场景
Ben 的理论是,Sora 早期的爆发依赖于用户能够让知名人物动起来——比如“让 Pikachu 做各种疯狂的事”——而版权打击可能帮助终结了这股兴趣。他更大的判断是,人们共同拥有的文化内容会变得越来越重要;他把现场活动视为这种共享文化价值的极端例子。
Andrew 认为,人们仍可能时不时用 Sora“进入 The Matrix”,或者重新混剪熟悉的电影角色。Ben 也同意,如果能够直接编辑真实电影片段,Sora 本可以成为“史上最强的 meme 制造机”(the greatest meme maker of all time)。
Andrew 的区分值得保留:成为一个强大的 meme 工具,始终比打造一个能与 Instagram、TikTok 或 Twitter 匹敌的社交网络更可信。Ben 的部分反驳是,高频使用某项功能会提供构建网络所需的原料,但从来不能保证网络一定形成。
3. Sora 反转了 Instagram 低成本走向网络效应的路径
Instagram 起步时是一款本身就有用的滤镜应用:计算发生在手机上,Apple 负责分发,用户再把结果分享到已有的社交网络。随后它沿着“因功能而来,为网络而留”的路径发展,甚至几乎整套搬用了 Twitter 的社交图谱。
Sora 从一开始就加入了社区功能,但人们看到的大多数 Sora 视频,可能其实是在其他社交网络上看到的。Ben 怀疑,在产品上线时就加入社交层本身是否是个错误;他同时强调,绝大多数新社交网络都会失败,并开玩笑说,预言每一个新社交网络都会失败,反而能给你一份漂亮的长期战绩。
更深层的问题在于成本与变现的时序。Instagram 的边际成本起初“基本为零”,并随着产品价值一起上升;云端生成视频则从第一天起就很昂贵,而 OpenAI 当时还没有找到变现方式。Sora 只有两条路:在几个月内做大,或者死掉;即便用量做到巨大,也无法回答收入是否超过成本。
4. OpenAI 的消费者飞轮启动太晚,未能得到验证
当被问及 OpenAI 转向企业市场能否与消费者业务目标并存时,Ben 坦率地回答:“我不知道。”AI 本身充满不确定性,尤其是算力成本的存在,使得从传统软件照搬过来的假设不再那么可靠。
Ben 过去的判断是,消费者业务才是终极目标:每15–20年才会出现一家定义一个时代的公司,Facebook 就是典型。他设想,一个约10亿用户的消费者业务可以支撑广告收入,再用广告收入反哺研发,进一步拉开“不可逾越的领先优势”。
令人沮丧的是,OpenAI 开始变现太晚,所以“我们不知道那条路是否行得通”。现在,企业业务是最清晰的短中期收入来源,因为客户会为生产力付费,Codex 也足够有吸引力;但这并不意味着垄断,OpenAI 仍必须与 Anthropic、Microsoft 等公司展开硬碰硬的竞争。
5. 营收口径模糊了 Anthropic 看似加速的势头
Andrew 将 OpenAI 与 Microsoft 作了对比:Microsoft 拥有近乎牢不可破的企业垄断,让消费者在工作场景中就学会使用它的产品。OpenAI 面对的是一个碎片化的企业市场,可能同时容纳多个工具;而在两家公司都未上市的情况下,Anthropic 的市场份额仍无从得知。
Ben 表示,The Information 的一篇报道暗示,Anthropic 报出的经常性收入可能更接近 GMV,也就是客户支付的总额;OpenAI 的数字则是扣除支付给云服务商部分后的金额。他用 Amazon 打了个比方:自营零售收入包含商品售价及对应成本,而平台市场业务只记录 Amazon 抽取的那部分佣金。
口径不同并不会抹去增长势头:“增长轨迹是真实的”(trajectories are real)。Anthropic 当前的曲线看起来“更陡”,但 OpenAI 的领先幅度可能比表面比较显示的更大。Andrew 说,两家公司都可能在未来1-2个季度内上市;Ben 对此表示欢迎,因为两家公司都需要资金,这正说明公开市场融资机制发挥了应有作用。
Hello, and welcome to a free preview of Sharp Tech. Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Sharp Tech. I'm Andrew Sharp, and on the other line, Ben, how are you doing?
I'm doing okay, Andrew. How are you?
Mid-vacation. I'm good.
Well—
It's great to be back to our roots here.
Vacation's overstating it. I've done a couple—I've done an update and an interview this week. It's a real stark contrast to you sitting on the beach a few weeks ago, completely taking the week off. Who's the grinder here? That's what I want to know.
Look, all I can say is I did it right, and you took the weirdest, most disjointed vacation I've ever seen, but I figured in honor of that, we would keep it light tonight and go all mail today.
Everyone keeps asking me how my vacation is. I'm like, “Does this really look like a vacation?”
It's not really a vacation. Let's just be honest. Let's call it what it is.
This is a very functional trip to Asia, and the days off are working around my travel. But I usually take a spring vacation every year, so I'm calling it a spring break. Yes, it's kind of ridiculous.
That's right. And next year I'll be right there on the first weekend of March Madness in your basement, preventing you—
That's right.
—from traveling anywhere next year.
We're going to do it next year.
Well—
Yes. I was annoyed that it was the same week this year, but I've already looked. My son's spring break does not line up with March Madness next year, so we'll see what we can do.
Oh, perfect.
This is what grinders have to do, Andrew. We have to plan like a year in advance, not like 3 hours in advance or whatever you do.
Exactly.
So—
A day before, I tell you, “I'm going on vacation. I'm going to be out all week. Deal with it.” But no, here we are, Ben. I gave you a couple weeks' heads-up on my vacation. At least 50% nonsense questions is the promise on this episode. We're going with a spring break mailbag today.
Before we hit mail, though, we do have to read this note at the top. A note from @soraofficialapp on Twitter: “We're saying goodbye—
Actually, I think the problem is right there. I saw one of the most devastating takedowns of a publication that I ever heard—who is it? Bob Lefsetz, the guy who writes the email newsletters about the music industry. I've referenced him before. Taylor Swift's song “Me!”—I know about him because he wrote a thing about how she can't sing.
One of the more devastating takedowns of a publication that I ever heard was when Recode went out of business. Bob Lefsetz, I think, is his name.
Yeah.
And he's like, “It was recode.net.” If you didn't have a .com—sorry, you weren't a business.
I don't take it seriously.
Now, I hesitate to say that to you because it is sharptechs.net.
Right.
Which I think is fine. I'm fine with a .net. It's a top 3 sort of domain. But if you are @soraofficialapp—
Yeah.
—as opposed to Sora, maybe you were not long for this world.
1. Sora Was Never A Business
Well, they weren't long for this world. “We're saying goodbye to the Sora app,” was the announcement earlier this week. “To everyone who created with Sora, shared it, and built community around it, thank you. What you made with Sora mattered, and we know this news is disappointing. We'll share more soon, including timelines for the app and API and details on preserving your work. The Sora team.” What you made with Sora—
I have a question for you. Did anything made with Sora matter?
Mattered. Fact-check on that particular statement.
That's exactly where I was going.
At least you can pop champagne mid-spring break over there because Vibes is still alive, you know?
Look, Vibes won. Just a lot of L's all around. I think I was proven correct, although this is probably one of those things where it's like, “Congratulations, you made the most obvious call ever.”
Sora wasn't necessarily it, although it did look sketchy for a while. It was at the top of the App Store. It was ultimately proved to be a novelty. Again, this is the guy who liked Vibes and then has never looked at Vibes in months, so I really do not get to claim any sort of W here.
You announced how much you liked Vibes about 12 hours before the entire internet was like, “This is the most antisocial product we've ever seen.” But hey, Meta has so much money that they're keeping Vibes alive, at least for the time being.
They will claim that the numbers are pretty good, which I don't believe. But yeah, Sora was kind of a—it's interesting because we talked about, or I think John and I talked about it at the time, watching this capability not in ChatGPT, but watching it as a standalone thing, with real community and social-network-type features.
Mm-hmm.
It was pretty audacious, particularly when you look back in retrospect. Stuff like this usually doesn't work. Facebook has launched a bunch of additional social networks that really haven't worked. The ones that have worked are the ones they just ended up buying because they came out of the ether.
So this is, in retrospect, pretty audacious, and it's interesting to consider whether it was a good or bad thing that they didn't just put Sora functionality into ChatGPT.
Mm-hmm.
I think the critique of why that was a mistake is they maybe never got critical mass. The good thing is this is a very bloodless killing.
Yeah.
I think the primary casualty seems to be Disney, of all entities.
That's right.
But if no one was using it—
That deal has been rolled back this week as well. It's interesting, though.
Right. If no one's using an app in the App Store and the app goes away, does it make a sound?
Well, this app scared the crap out of Hollywood. There was a whole frenzy. I'm sure everybody listening to this show remembers it, but Hollywood was all freaked out about copyright and what this could mean. Then Disney was forward-thinking for embracing it.
I do think, in retrospect, it reflects good product instincts at OpenAI. The choices they made and the way they promoted it were all good. It's just that the product itself isn't really a business for them, and they're now focusing on business.
Well, here's the thing. You could make the case that the reason Sora died is because they started cracking down on copyright. In the first few days, when it was going nuts, it was because people were doing stuff with recognizable figures.
I think we talked about this at the time, but maybe that is one of the biggest takeaways. It's a theory that I've put forward consistently. It's a reason why I feel optimistic about our fortunes in an AI world: things that people have in common—
Yeah.
—are going to matter and matter more and more. At the far extreme, there's live events. Live events are becoming more and more important, tremendously profitable, going up almost everywhere, in all cases except for NBA games for tanking teams—but that's another discussion.
It's a similar thing with these copyright bits. When you could do Pikachu doing crazy things, people found Sora very interesting.
Would we still be using it on a semi-regular basis? It probably wasn't going to be an everyday thing, but would we still resort to Sora to make videos featuring movie characters we all know? I think that's a good question.
2. Social Networks Need A Tool
The other thing that's interesting is that you go back to Instagram in the day, and Instagram started as a photo-filter app. On Instagram, when you would take a picture and apply the filter, there were buttons right there to easily share it to other social networks.
Mm-hmm.
It's become a very well-chronicled strategy. I think Chris Dixon wrote the canonical argument about this: come for the tool, stay for the network, or something along those lines. They were independently useful and then got permission over time to layer on the social-network aspects, and then also lifted the Twitter graph wholesale back in the day.
Everyone wants to bemoan the end of open APIs and open social graphs.
Well, there's a very good reason why stuff's not very open anymore: Instagram basically bootstrapped itself off Twitter's social network.
Yeah.
But for Sora, probably the most Sora videos people did see were on other social networks. And it's just really hard; maybe even having the social stuff at the beginning was a mistake. I mean, there was the Cameo bit, all those bits and pieces. I think probably the takeaway is this—
They were trying the right things.
It's hard.
Yeah.
Look, there have been so many attempts to build social networks, and the reality is the vast majority of them fail.
Mm-hmm.
And if you want to be a good prognosticator, if you want to have a good track record, just come out and say, “Every single one is going to fail,” and you're going to have a great record.
9 out of 10 times, you're going to come out—
Yep.
—looking pretty smart.
3. Compute Costs Decide Sora's Fate
The thing that was striking to me, though, is just when you hear OpenAI talk about focusing—
Mm-hmm.
—everyone's like, “Well, the Sora app's got to go.” It's not just that the Sora app needed to go. The amount of compute this appears to have been using, even now when no one's using it, feels astronomical. And that's, in the end, maybe the biggest critique of this. Which is—
Who greenlit this—
If you're constrained—
—if it was that expensive? Apparently, I saw $15 million a day thrown out. I don't know what the actual number is, but, yeah. I mean, it was obviously compute-intensive on day 1, and people had questions about how much compute was being dedicated to this project.
Yeah, I mean, this probably gets to the broader questions about where OpenAI's business is in general, but I don't want to bang on it too hard.
Yeah.
Again, you could get a very high batting average predicting everything's going to fail, and that's not a very fun world if no one tries because they assume everything's going to fail. So I will give Sora a parting salute.
Well, look, we're all living through the early innings of the AI era here, and there are going to be misses and weird experiments and all sorts of things that are charming in retrospect. Sora is already one of those things. I'm always going to remember that first week when everyone thought that Sora was taking over the world. And I do think if you were still allowed to use copyrighted movie characters and insert yourself into The Matrix, people would use it more often.
Right, or modify actual scenes. It had the potential to be the greatest meme maker of all time.
Exactly.
But that's interesting. It's like—
And that was always plausible. That was more plausible, just for the record, than it turning into its own social network that rivals Instagram or TikTok or Twitter.
Well, but if—again, to go back to the Instagram example, if you have heavy usage—
Yeah.
—then you have the ingredients to build a social network. One thing that is important to note, though, and this gets to the infrastructure-cost angle: to go back to the Instagram example, it was applying filters on your phone, using your local camera and your local compute, and then you were posting stuff to other social networks. The actual costs for the initial version of Instagram, on a marginal basis, were basically zero.
Yeah.
Everything was happening locally. You built the app. It was distributed through the App Store, so Apple's taking care of that aspect for you. It's running on people's local phones. Over time, then, you could layer on the—
Mm-hmm.
Now, the cost to run Instagram today is astronomical, right? Because it's basically a cloud. It's a front end for a cloud service, and everyone has their own customized feed, and there's obviously lots of video and all these bits and pieces. But it was a very natural progression from basically zero marginal cost to layering on. And as the value of the app itself and the network increased, the costs also increased, but it was a match.
Yeah.
And that is a fundamental problem with Sora and is going to be a fundamental problem for anyone that tries to do something similar. This just gets to why, from the very beginning, I've always been on and on about zero marginal costs—
Mm-hmm.
—and why that makes all these new things possible. AI generally—there's a whole discussion to be had about local versus in-the-cloud computation and the question of marginal costs. But for video generation in particular, we're nowhere close to a world of—
Yeah.
—zero marginal costs. But this almost makes the point that I make continuously about zero marginal costs in reverse. Not having zero marginal costs is sort of debilitating. And it ends up in an all-or-nothing scenario where either this takes off and is a huge deal, or within—
That's its own problem.
—a matter of months, it's dead.
Yeah. Right. Well, and if it takes off and it's a huge deal, we haven't really figured out how to make money from this. So how are we benefiting more than we're hurting from all the costs of all this product?
Yeah, maybe they should have had an advertising business in place.
Right.
Yeah. It really speaks to that being probably peak OpenAI, in terms of they could do no wrong. They would make a deal with a company, that company's stock would go to the moon, and it's incredible—like, that was only a few months ago.
I know.
So it's—
Most takeable company in history. It's all part of the ride here.
Yeah, it—
Well, speaking of which—
Yeah, go ahead.
4. OpenAI Chooses Enterprise
Adrian, who emailed last week saying that OpenAI pivoting to the enterprise was a mistake, followed up on our discussion and said, “Guys, how many great companies did well at consumer and enterprise in the first decade? Microsoft was able to dominate the consumer market not just because they were good at enterprise, but because they had an early enterprise monopoly and were a default. Will OpenAI be able to build a monopoly in the enterprise today against Microsoft, Google, Oracle, Anthropic, and Amazon, and leverage that to remain the default for consumers? In the consumer market, they only have to compete with Google, but keeping up with Google will take laser focus.”
Any thoughts on the follow-up from Adrian there?
Well, this gets to what is honestly going to be a theme for a huge majority of this podcast. I'm going to warn you right now: maybe this is the, quote-unquote, “Don't call it a vacation” laziness kicking in.
Okay.
But one thing—this is just a thing about AI in general. My answer is, I don't know. The degree of uncertainty is so high, and OpenAI is a great example. It does speak to this cost issue really screwing with things.
Yeah.
In a more traditional compute environment, which a lot of my analysis with OpenAI may be unwittingly incorporated, it's like, well, you have a billion users, or close to a billion users, or whatever it might be. Consumer is the great prize. You only get a big new consumer company every 15 to 20 years. There's usually one defining one—
Uber's like the last one to launch, really.
—per paradigm.
Well, I'd really go back to Facebook. Facebook is sort of the category that you—
Mm-hmm.
—you sort of have in mind for OpenAI, and that is the biggest prize in the world. And part of the whole thesis around why they need to be monetizing, why they need to have an ad model and all these pieces, is because then that gives you this revenue flywheel that no one can compete with because it's so hard to get consumers. It's even harder to build a thriving advertising business.
But they seemed to have such a lead, and they had so many consumers. It's like, surely they can figure this out, and once they figure this out, then they're getting revenue from this model that they feed back into their R&D, and they can push further ahead.
Yeah.
And it sort of becomes an insurmountable lead. I think I probably made this case most clearly around, I want to say, 20 months ago. I think it was at the MoffettNathanson conference or something along those lines, talking about this flywheel and why that would give them this big advantage. And it's so frustrating, to the point of being a takeable company. We don't know if that would have worked—
Yeah.
—because they were so late to get started. And now we're in a situation where, for sure, the best way to make money in the short to medium term, where you can just really turn the spigots on—
is in enterprise. We talked about it last week. Enterprise is willing to pay for productivity gains, and what they have with Codex is very compelling. And yes and no, I should say: it’s not a monopoly.
Yeah.
It’s tooth and nail with Anthropic. Obviously, they’re going to be fighting with Microsoft. They’re going to be fighting with all these folks, but at some point, the computation costs are what they are. You have to pay for these servers.
5. Microsoft Built Consumer Reach
When I think about Microsoft succeeding in the consumer space, a lot of that was because they did have an airtight monopoly on the enterprise space, and so everybody learned to use computers by using Microsoft at work. That’s a huge advantage as you’re trying to get a foothold in the consumer space.
OpenAI’s story is going to be more complicated than that in terms of enterprise adoption because I’m sure there are going to be a lot of different tools used at enterprises over the next couple of years here, and Anthropic does have a real share of that market. How big of a share is anyone’s guess because these are private companies.
Yeah, it is anyone’s guess. I got a lot of pushback when I shared that Ramp data on Anthropic that we talked about before.
There’s a story in The Information this week, too, that Anthropic is basically—when they’re talking about their skyrocketing annual recurring revenue numbers, that’s actually the total that people are paying. It’s like with e-commerce: what do you calculate? Gross merchandise value, I think—GMV—which is how much you pay for all your items.
Okay.
Do you calculate that as your revenue, or do you subtract away the cost of the item itself?
Hmm.
In Amazon, actually, one thing that’s challenging with Amazon’s business is that traditional Amazon is in a wholesale model. It’s like a retailer. They actually buy the items and then sell the items.
Yeah.
For that business, Amazon’s revenue is the whole item, and they have a very large cost of goods sold because they actually had to buy the item from whoever made it.
Whereas in the third-party business, Amazon’s revenue is much smaller because they’re not including the cost of the item in their calculation. It’s a third-party merchant that’s selling it.
Right.
All they’re doing is their skim on top, as far as their percentage of fees.
But they’re not assuming any of the risk in that scenario either, right?
Right. No, exactly. But as far as understanding the company, what you want to know is gross merchandise value, which is the total value of everything they’re selling. That’s a very different number from your actual meaningful revenue, which is what’s actually coming into your company.
Mm-hmm.
This report in The Information says that Anthropic’s numbers are basically the GMV version. It’s like everything.
Yeah.
Whereas OpenAI’s numbers are the percentage on top of what’s going to the clouds. Who knows? To your point, them not being public companies is frustrating.
But they’re different methodologies.
It’s easy to get caught up in these details.
They’re stated as different methodologies.
They’re different methodologies, but trajectories are real. I don’t think anyone denies that the Anthropic trajectory is more vertical at this point than maybe the OpenAI one, even if it’s possible the OpenAI lead is larger than you might think.
Yes. Well, both of them may not be private companies for much longer. We’ll see whether they—
Yeah.
—go public in the next couple—
That’d be good for us.
—quarters here.
Well, it is actually the public-company concept working as it should. It just had to get as large as these companies are. They need money.
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