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Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 77 min

Dylan Patel – Two labs will soon control most of the world's workforce

Dwarkesh PatelDylan Patel

Anthropic and OpenAI could receive 40%–50% of new compute next year, potentially controlling most usable FLOPs by end-2028 as GB300, TPU v7 and Trainium 3 improve performance per watt 3–5×.Anthropic’s revenue has reached as high as $50M/MW, it started turning profitable in Q2, and compute repricing, regulation and export controls leave margins, financing and centralization as key risks.

Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 76 min

The better AI gets, the smaller its share of the economy might get – Alex Imas and Phil Trammell

Dwarkesh PatelAlex ImasPhil Trammell

Post-AGI value may concentrate either in relational goods where human participation itself matters or in ever-expanding machine-made varieties, leaving the endpoint unresolved.H100 rents rising despite abundant compute and no white-collar bloodbath yet make demand elasticity the central signal, while political shocks, redistribution design and concentrated capital ownership remain decisive risks to monitor.

Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 145 min

Andrej Karpathy — “We’re summoning ghosts, not building animals”

Dwarkesh PatelAndrej Karpathy

Karpathy’s differentiated call is a “decade of agents”: current systems lack continual learning and multimodality, while coding agents proved “not net useful” on nanochat and struggled with code never written before.He expects three or four or five more RL updates while saying current compute may be absorbed rather than overbuilt; deployment’s march of nines and timeline miscalibration remain watchpoints.

Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 89 min

Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Dwarkesh PatelVictor Shih

China is pushing AI investment despite total government debt nearing 200% of GDP, while Xi’s system prioritizes strategic output and regime control over profitability, consumption and local fiscal health.Ding Xuexiang’s brake-first AI doctrine and DeepSeek’s policy focus reveal the governance model, but succession remains the sharpest risk: a brief lapse in command could trigger capital flight, 20% rates and mass bankruptcy.

Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 188 min

AGI is still 30 years away — Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Dwarkesh PatelEge ErdilTamay Besiroglu

Tamay Besiroglu places full remote-work automation around 2045, while the guests argue that capability gains require roughly three orders of magnitude of compute each and only three or four may remain before infrastructure reaches a major economic share.Their broader forecast is roughly 30% explosive growth, but deployment, regulation, complementary supply chains, and unresolved agency and alignment gaps—not intelligence alone—will determine the timing and distribution.

Dwarkesh PodcastEN · 60 min

Tyler Cowen — The #1 bottleneck to AI progress is humans

Tyler CowenDwarkesh Patel

Tyler Cowen argues that AI will transform the world without producing an explosive economic takeoff: as intelligence becomes abundant, adoption, institutions, infrastructure, and other constraints become the bottlenecks.He weighs rapid capability gains against slow diffusion, unusually normal markets, diminishing returns, and the risk that technological progress makes future wars more destructive.