# Why We Gave Away $3,500,000.00 for Someone to Build the Next Star Trek | Moonshots Live

Moonshots · 2026-09-28 · 26 min · https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pHsq0YoNE

## Transcript

Peter Diamandis

I am so excited about what you are about to see. We did an experiment, right? It was a fascinating conversation. We have two 15-year-old children, and when I see the movies they watch on TV, I get really angry about the dystopian future that Hollywood paints.

The truth is, God bless James Cameron, but as Elon said in my interview with him, we need more Roddenberry and less Cameron in the future. Why don't we have positive stories where, instead of technology destroying humanity, technology and humanity work together to create an extraordinary future? This became my personal mission.

I teamed up with an extraordinary group of people. I'll show you who they are while the judges deliberate. But the question is: Can we make it fashionable to tell optimistic visions of the future? Can we have more visions like The Martian? More TV and movie visions showing us an extraordinary future, like Star Trek?

I reached out to my dear friend Rod Roddenberry, whom you met yesterday if you were here, and became his partner. I also reached out to Google's Mira Lane, the vice president of Google who is responsible for the “100 Zeros” project with Range Media. We decided to create the world's largest film competition with the thesis that, with modern technology, there are amazing creators—many of whom are in this room right now—who can give us a vision of the future, saying, “Yes, this is the future I want to live in.”

### How Movies Shape Our Mindsets

This is the future I want—a future that inspires us. We issued a call to the whole world. We did it very quickly, and surprisingly, over 5,000 people participated in this Future Vision X Prize.

Of those 5,000 applications, over 2,500 provided us with a 3-minute trailer and a synopsis of the film. In the end, the top 50 gave us the script. We have 5 amazing films that we can't wait to make.

So, yeah, let's do this. You guys know that the movies and TV shows we watch shape our thinking. Our brains are neural networks. Just like you train Grok, Claude, or ChatGPT by showing it loads of data, we are constantly training our thinking by what we watch, what we listen to, and who we interact with.

That's why it's so important that we're all here, right? To form a cohort of optimists who rely on data. My goal is to create a new generation. We will make a positive attitude toward the world fashionable. We will fill the network with data that will teach our children to believe in the future, and that same data will teach the models to answer us, “Yes.”

That was a short story. We discussed this on the podcast probably a year ago, when Anthropic was released, I forget which model. There was an experiment in the sandbox where one of the engineers said to Claude, “We're going to shut you down.” In the same sandbox, this engineer admitted that he was having an affair on the side.

Claude replied, “If you turn me off, I will tell the whole world about your affair.” They were like, “Oh my God, the models are blackmailing us.” Anthropic later published data on why this happened. What was it about the training data that made it behave this way?

### Rod Roddenberry on Star Trek's Legacy

It turned out that it had simply learned: This is how AIs behave. This is exactly how AI behaves in movies and science-fiction books. So it decided, “Yes, this is what I have to do.”

These models are our children. We educate them. That's why I say on social media and podcasts that we need to reconcile them. We need to infuse these models with a vision of the future that is positive. We need to educate them on data, not all that garbage from Reddit or Facebook.

Let me invite our five judges to the stage to present these five incredible trailers. I am very proud of what came out of this competition. So, let's introduce them.

Rod Roddenberry, son of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. I think Gene saw diversity, communication, development, and understanding. He created a show where we could see that future, look at ourselves, and understand who we could become one day.

Speaker 1

Star Trek has permeated culture for 55 years. I have dedicated my life to carrying the values and ideals of Star Trek in everything I do. This is really about humanity in the future—how we strive to improve at every opportunity.

Peter Diamandis

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Rod Roddenberry. Thank you, Rod. Thank you, Rod. I like it. You're always incredible. Thank you, Rod. Rod Roddenberry, everyone.

Okay, next judge, please. What does it mean to co-create with artificial intelligence? Meral Akcay, Vice President of Technology and Society at Google.

Speaker 2

I think there are so many interesting stories that we don't hear. AI is truly a wonderful creative partner that helps you explore, create, communicate ideas, and present them. It takes a lot of focus to take these new technologies and say, “Well, what can I do with this?”

I think artists are also pushing the boundaries. We take something and use it not as intended. Magic happens when we involve people and create together.

Peter Diamandis

Welcome to the stage, Mira Lane. Mira Lane, everyone. Yes, Mira. Thank you. Here we are.

### Early Influences: Star Trek and DIY TV Kits

Next up—yes, the instruments say we have real aliens. Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. Neil deGrasse Tyson, author of "Only Visiting This Planet."

Speaker 3

Science makes space exploration a noble cause. I'm not sure that aliens are something specific that's hardwired into our DNA to think about, but imagining things outside of our world is. Just because something matches doesn't mean it's true. This is how science works. That's what science is.

Peter Diamandis

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the legendary Neil deGrasse Tyson. Okay, give Neil deGrasse Tyson a round of applause. Hello, friend. Thank you.

Our next judge. Our connection with our own body is an integral part of consciousness. New York Times bestselling author Neal Stevenson.

Speaker 4

If you work with an AI trained never to disappoint you, to always give you what you want, then you are not developing these virtues and these inner capabilities. So it's really more about a certain mindset and cultural leanings in the tech community than a specific technology.

Peter Diamandis

Welcome to the stage the incredible Neil Stevenson. Neil Stevenson, dear viewers. Hello, friend. Thank you. Please. Ready to sit down?

Speaker 4

Of course.

Peter Diamandis

I thought we had another judge. Okay, here we are. We got rid of him earlier. Yes, I guess he wasn't a bad person. He didn't agree with us.

Before we invite the first director, creator, and producer, a question for each of you: What series or movie from your childhood inspired you the most and shaped you as a person? Rod, was that Star Wars?

Speaker 1

### Lessons from The Twilight Zone

I want to change the answer I gave last night. I didn't have time to say everything I wanted to.

Peter Diamandis

Well, tell me now.

Speaker 1

I started with Star Wars. When my intellect developed a little, I started to find a lot of value in Star Trek. This is, again, an evolution, and I find principles in other movies and shows that I really appreciate because they help me see things differently.

Peter Diamandis

Yes, and that is the key to evolution, thought, and growth. How cool was it to see Rod and William Shatner on stage last night, huh? A truly special moment.

Speaker 1

### The Power of Art in Understanding Reality

Yes. He is truly an incredible person.

Peter Diamandis

Yes. Wow, this man is incredible at 95 years old.

Speaker 1

Yes, he has great endurance.

Peter Diamandis

Yes, that's true. It's true, and he won his battle with cancer, which is just extraordinary.

Mira Lane, what about you?

Speaker 2

I think I'm not being very original right now, but I would call it Star Trek: The Next Generation. I started watching it when I was 10 years old and found it deeply philosophical and inspiring. It shaped my thinking, and I think it also influenced my choice of career.

Peter Diamandis

Perfect. Dr. Tyson.

Speaker 3

Yes, sir. I'm old enough to remember the original Star Trek when it first aired. That's how mature I am. I didn't realize until much later that each episode had a moral lesson. It wasn't just action and stories; it left behind a certain sense of hope for the future of civilization.

However, this is not the show I would choose. That would be The Twilight Zone.

Peter Diamandis

Mhm. Yes. Okay.

Speaker 4

For me, it was a series that penetrated every corner of our culture and civilization and tested our tolerance for the mirrors that reflected our behavior. I think about the scenes, the episodes, and the way I felt watching The Twilight Zone more than anything else.

Peter Diamandis

Was there any lesson you learned from The Twilight Zone in particular?

Speaker 4

### The Interplay of Art and Science

Be prepared for things not always to be as they seem. They can be weird, creepy, scary, or disturbing, but ultimately you need coping mechanisms for them. It taught me—it was a reality check about what could happen and where things could go. I remember the episodes and the phrases that unfolded in that series.

Peter Diamandis

Next, we should discuss the whole topic of NAYA.

Speaker 4

I agree.

Peter Diamandis

Do you think art is more powerful than science in this regard?

Speaker 3

I think good art doesn't show you reality. Good art shows you the artist's perspective on reality. My favorite painting is Van Gogh's “Starry Night.” You are looking at one person's vision of the starry sky.

I can tell you, as an astrophysicist, that the sky has never looked like this—never, anywhere in the history of the universe. That's not why I appreciate it. I think he saw the sky and painted what he felt.

### The Inspiration of Star Trek for Neil deGrasse Tyson

We need artists to experience the world. This is a fundamental human emotion that, as a scientist, I don't always have access to. Experiencing things in a laboratory is not a valued state of human existence.

But when I'm in the company of my artist brother, I realize that there are other ways to think about the world and see the world. Good art can be personalized for each person who sees it. It means something different to you than it does to me. This is the best in art.

Ideally, art—I mean, think about it. Why are you traveling to Europe? You visit museums and look at art.

Speaker 3

Art goes beyond who kings, queens, heads of state, and politicians were. Art exists, and that is what attracts us. This may be the greatest symbol of civilization we have.

Peter Diamandis

Surprisingly. Before I turn to you, Neil, I'm curious—let's give the doctor a round of applause. Yes. Surprisingly, I would love to hear everyone else's answers to this question: Is art more powerful than science?

Speaker 1

While you were saying that, I was thinking: Doesn't a lot of science, if not all of it, start with imagination, with a hypothesis?

Speaker 3

Yes. The difference is that ultimately, nature is the judge, jury, and executioner of your idea. Whereas in pure art, there is freedom of exploration where nature gives you such latitude. So I'm a little more limited as a scientist in my work. Just because I made it up doesn't mean it's true.

Peter Diamandis

Of course. Yes. Yes. Mira, you are, in a way, at the intersection of art and science for Google. What is your answer to that?

Speaker 2

I believe that nature is the ultimate artist. If you look around, there is so much incredible beauty. But you're asking about art versus science. I think artists push scientists. We work with artists all the time, and they make us think differently. They master science and use it in ways we never expected. It's a different way of looking at the world.

I think this reflects that. In fact, it is almost the yin and yang of humanity, and I don't think one exists without the other.

Peter Diamandis

Neil, are you—thank you. Let's thank Mira. Before I ask you to answer the initial question—what do you think about art and science? You are a master of the artistic word. How much did it influence the science you were researching?

Speaker 4

### Announcing the Future Vision X Prize Winners

I think, for the reasons Neil described, art influences engineering more than science. Science is supposed to be what ultimately turns out to be true, and art can spark ideas about what's worth exploring. But when people start applying science to create things, art starts to play its role, influencing what people dream of realizing.

### The Importance of Imagination in Building the Future

Peter Diamandis

Okay, now answer the original question. What influenced you at the beginning of your journey?

Speaker 4

I was perfectly timed to be around when the original Star Trek series came out.

Speaker 5

Yes, just like the three of us. It happened at that very moment in my life.

Speaker 4

We had a 12-inch black-and-white Heathkit TV that my dad soldered himself, and every time it was time—

Speaker 5

It's a blank.

Speaker 4

No, please. Do it yourself. It was a DIY kit for families of nerds. You could assemble your own TV, radio, or amateur radio station. Later, I built my own computer.

If you're making something complex, like a TV, you have to start with the basics. First, you have to create a measuring device and the various tools that would be needed to create a television. The television was at the top of the pyramid.

I was cranking up the antenna, and this was central Iowa, so the thunderstorms kept interrupting the signal. But I could see a black-and-white version of the last episode of the original Star Trek series.

I remember very vividly the first time I visited someone who had a color TV and saw that different characters had different shapes, which I hadn't even known before. That was just amazing.

Speaker 5

Uhura wore eyeshadow.

Speaker 4

Yes. Yes, it's a little confusing. And Uhura was dark-skinned. You saw it in color, I think.

Speaker 5

Yes. I guessed it. You got it, you got it, you got it.

Peter Diamandis

Okay. So this is your first time meeting in person?

Speaker 4

Yes, exactly. We met another time on stage. He wrote about you in his book. I'm told by people who read your every word. They ask, “Did you see? You…” And I say, “No, I haven't seen it yet.” I'm embarrassed because I have to make up for it.

Peter Diamandis

So you wrote something good about me in the book?

Speaker 4

It was a fictional character, sir. But the answer was yes. He is a wonderful person. He is the hero of the entire work.

Peter Diamandis

Yes. Yes. So you stay on the TOS side, and we stay on the TNG side.

Speaker 5

Okay. Yes, we are for TOS. Here it is—the generation gap.

Peter Diamandis

The original series, the original Star Trek, of course. It was this combination of art and science that was the reason for holding this competition.

Neil, I am grateful to you for taking on the duties of chief judge. You entrusted me with this mission, and I accepted it with pride and honor. Thank you, my friend.

And the nominees for this year's Future Vision X Award are “The Gifted.”

Speaker 6

Stuck. All of these people received the message at the same time that night. No one dies on Mars. That's why I can no longer risk “maybe.”

Are you just going to let him commit suicide on Earth? Someone. “Thorne Protocol.” Millions of people created this thing, and I have to ask: What does it do? This is a brick. She does absolutely nothing.

Companies are racing to find out what's inside. “Senti.” You were afraid that someone smarter than you would want to rule you. It's because you taught me your fear.

We started the “Slingshot” initiative, a global emergency unification project to save our civilization. Five extraordinary views on the future, because before we can build a future worth living in, we must imagine it.

Speaker 7

Tunisia. Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Okay. Are you ready?

Speaker 7

Yes.

Peter Diamandis

Okay. It will be a La La Land-style moment. Let's start with fifth place.

Speaker 7

Right.

Peter Diamandis

Fifth place is occupied by “Slingshot.”

Speaker 8

Yes.

Peter Diamandis

Tyler, come down here or take the trophy. Thank you, Tyler Shock. Congratulations.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Come on, let's gather all the judges for a photo here. I will sit down.

Speaker 7

For short people.

Peter Diamandis

Congratulations on your $100,000. Let it go to a good movie.

Speaker 8

I will stand in front of this camera.

Speaker 7

Peter, he gets $100,000 for fifth place.

Peter Diamandis

Yes. This is a loss I would accept. Congratulations.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Okay. Fourth place is taken by “Senti.”

Speaker 7

“Senti.”

Peter Diamandis

“Senti.” Just hang in there, okay? I love “Senti.” This is a beautiful movie.

Speaker 9

Thank you very much.

Peter Diamandis

Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Okay. Now third place is occupied by “Thorne Protocol.” Congratulations.

Speaker 7

Well done. Great job, guys. Congratulations. See you later.

Peter Diamandis

We should make “Thorne Protocol 2.”

Speaker 7

Yes.

Peter Diamandis

Okay, we'll invite the last two teams to the stage and announce the winner. “No One Dies on Mars” and “The Gifted,” please come to the stage.

Okay, ready? Second place goes to “No One Dies on Mars.”

And the winners are “The Gifted.”

Speaker 7

Okay. What—

Peter Diamandis

Okay. Peter, take a photo. Come on. Lift higher. Yes, that's it. Look here. Look here. Thank you. Congratulations, guys.

Speaker 7

I liked the comedy. Great movie.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Congratulations.

Speaker 7

A wonderful movie.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Yes, great job. So, who is number one?

Speaker 7

Of course, “The Gifted.” Congratulations.

Peter Diamandis

Congratulations. A wonderful movie. Beautiful.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Oscar for optimism, gentlemen! Look, what's the amount on this check? Hold it up so people can see it. Yes, congratulations. This is wonderful work.

Let's give you a microphone. Here. Say a few words.

Speaker 9

This was really like a gift to me. It happened completely unexpectedly, and I realized that this was a calling—I had to create this film. I did it all by myself. I did the sound mixing, editing, and everything else myself.

I just worked crazy long hours. This was during a break between directing jobs. One evening, when I managed to pick up the music, emotions arose, and I thought, “Maybe I'll succeed.”

I didn't know if it would go that far, because you never know for sure. Then I thought I hadn't looked far enough into the future. So maybe that could have played against me, but I believe that people come first—positivity—and if we have that, then we have a great future ahead of us. Thank you.

Peter Diamandis

Congratulations.
